Something I once thought about is how certain fantasy/fiction monsters/creatures are basic alterations of humans like how cyclops are just a person with a single eye or how an elf is someone with pointy ears. Of course, there's interpretations that go crazier than that, but I mainly thought of this because of how in real life, the closest to a cyclop would be someone with a deformity where their 2 eyes are fused together. Because I also wonder what happens first: Someone from thousands of years ago creates a fictional monster with clear difference from humans or someone in real life is born with such abnormalities, that either inspires the fictional monster or is compared to one and even has a disease/condition named after it.

Another thing is how fictional races can still have a certain level of "natural perfection" or "rules" where, a cyclop is meant to have one eye, so they don't look the same as someone with their eyes fused into one weird eye. And it's not just a matter of art style (Like cyclop characters looking less uncanny in a stylized/cartoony art style instead of looking realistic), because even with live action, you can still make the cyclop seem natural to their own nature.

Siamese twins are a similar thing: It's not just that someone with 2 heads is unnatural, it's that most of the time, they look even weird than fictional characters with 2 heads, like how some siamese twins have one half being taller than the other. So if an artist wants and has the skill and effort: You can make a character with 2 heads that still looks "idealized" or at least natural in their own terms.

Basically, imagine if someone was born with long ears and they're said to have the "elf syndrom". But their ears are so weird looking, they're not the same as idealized, fantasy elfs whose pointy ears still look fancy.

In a way, what IS more uncanny? A guy born with one eye that looks weird because it's their 2 eyes fused together? Or a perfect real life cyclop where the single eye looks relatively normal and even functions properly?

Part of why I made this post is because I did look up other people's 2 headed characters when designing that female Hellhound for Hirdrih. But during Nortubel, when I drew the character Tfoorie, I remember watching a video of someone's cat born with 2 conjoined heads so they had 2 mouths and 3 eyes. The one eye in the middle was of course 2 fused eyes and there's even clips of both before and after the surgery to get that middle eye removed.

I think what makes multiple eyes weird is the fact that the human brain wastes more energy for the sake of extra body parts. It's almost the same reason why people that are taller than usual tend to have shorter lifespans. Even if humans are different from each other and change based on evolution and other factors, there's always some rules that makes us limited. Because one thing is people that look ugly or weird because of deformities or just poor health habits and environment. But it also means that if someone looked very beautiful/handsome and has so many traits like being tall, that could still come with a price.

The game takes place in a cinema or something movie related, where you get access to some of the most critically acclaimed movies of all time.

And the main villain/horror monster is an animatronic of Roger Ebert.

The animatronic has a weird open mouth, because it's based on when he had his jaw removed.

And when he catches you, he opens his weird mouth and reveals rows of sharp metallic teeth and eats you.

Maybe the game revolves around going to some theaters and you "watch" the movies as if you're getting inside them as if there's levels based off made up movies in the game's universe.

Also, there's a creepypasta about a game called The Theater.

Actually, the whole reason for this post is because of the idea of making a horror monster out of jawless Roger Ebert, like how there's an urban legend about the Ayuwoki MIchael Jackson animatronic.

One thing you'll see is people going "YES, HE'S OUTED AS AN ABUSER".

Why are they doing this? Because in an age of the oversocialized internet where everyone is a virtue signalling performer seeking for approval: It's not enough to hate someone because you think they're lame.

You need to have a morally justified reason, even if all it does is feed your ego and approval seeking while not showing actual respect or care for the victims.

(Never forget some people wanting to paint ChibiReviews as a pedo, then saying nothing when an hacker came to his account to post actual CP in it).

You'll also have meme gimmick accounts saying shit like "Saberspark added to the naughty list" because people have no etiquette online.

Equivalent to someone hearing news about a mass shooting and responding with a drawing of Super Mario crying.

(To be fair, a lot of "funny wacky" meme accounts always break character like this, I think that one "things that aged badly" account with Blinx the Cat is the most notorious example).

It also happens that most of these allegations always involve various texts and info but people only hear this from second hand info and not even research it properly.

Basically why, for a period of time, Jontron was labelled as a Nazi: He was basically tricked to join some stream by Destiny (AKA the "Ethical CP" guy), expressed some points badly and that was used to make him look bad.

Basically, anytime someone says "I heard he's a piece of shit", what they meant is:

"I heard LITTLE info about this person and I'm too lazy to look it up, correct what I know while at the same time feeling comfortable being among with likeminded people and with the little I know of".

Even then, I myself know little of this situation but felt like commenting on how people are treating it, because it says a lot about modern internet and there's some things to be learned (Even if in a "how NOT to behave").

Otherwise, I don't care much about cartoon Youtubers who probably have a lot of bad opinions and taste in animation.

Actually, I have a bit of a theory:

People treat sympathy, sincerity, normalcy etc as vague concepts that you can easily perform as long as you say you do them.

Basically, "fake it until you make it".

On one hand, you have the oversocialized internet where everyone is on each other's necks, like one of those dystopia stories where people are against each other so the authoritarian regime doesn't go after them.

(A coincidence that a lot of people "grew up and changed" in an age where people say "unalive").

On another, you also have how limited internet interactions are.

You can be nice to people online and do stuff like donate them money.

But what is the online equivalent to helping an old lady go across the street?

With these 2 in mind, you have this environment where everyone is concered with "having a normal one" and being a "decent fucking person" but don't really do much to show it.

But because they get likes/retweets/upvotes/etc they don't have to.

All it takes is finding enough people on their level and they think that's the norm.

Recently, I tried to advertise for /v/3 with some art of my characters but I may stop because of 2 things:

• My mouse is having weird issues with click-and-drag, so I switched to one that instead has weird mouse wheel issues and is also of a vertical design.
• Pixiv got my account suspended because of those images because of some policy related to advertising to outside websites.

If nothing else, I'd like if some of you retweeted those images I posted on Twitter about /v/3.

You can also see all images on 8ch moe's /vb/ thread I made about /v/3.

Portugal had a major power outage in almost the entire country. And apparently, so did other European countries. From what I heard, it's due to something going on with the atmosphere and it started on Spain.

When Portugal had electricity back, it started on the North and took a while to get down there. Though there's still stories of airports on hold and stores being robbed, at least in some areas.

During this time, me and my family had to cook some food because of the fact that the fridge stopped working. We still had some phone battery/data but had to save a bit of it just in case.

As of now, it's back. A big lesson here is to prepare and be carefull as usual.

Don't really like George Carlin that much but the idea that he'd be considered "woke" today is goofy.

One obvious reason is when he shits on political correctness.

But another is because of the whole schtick of "most people are fucking stupid" which doesn't work with a culture of fake positivity and people prending to be nice.

Think of Tumblr artists when they fetishize vitiligo and stretch marks and go "you're so beautiful" which is something corporations and brands even caught on as part of marketing.

Doesn't work with a mindset that thinks about masses culture or shit like that, outside of maybe when some Americans go "most Americans are dumb but at least the rightoids ones. Good thing us lefties are the good ones" when an outsider would think "fuck you, you're both bad".

There's also the fact that concepts like sincerity and sympathy are best done naturally and through action but the internet is this virtual space where what you get out of most people is just written words.

So some people put more effort into shouting "I'M A GOOD PERSON, I'M A GOOD PERSON" than actually proving it.

It's the same reason why everyone is overly self conscious and why plenty of movies/shows/games/etc have "self aware/meta writing".

For the same reason people join online mobs to attack others for moral superiority when deep down, they too have skeletons in their closers.

Guess there's also how the problem with humanity isn't that we're all the same, if anything we're too different from each other.

That's why, if culture wars mean anything, people love having a black-or-white view: It's easier if everyone is either X or Y.

If you lean left/right to the extreme but someone on your side is "not lefty/righty enough", you'd hate them more than the other side because they confuse you like an eldritch being.

Going back to Carlin, there's also the fact that the left didn't really embrace political correctness (At least as much as now) until like the 2010's.

It's what makes the existence of "dark woke" silly because it's them going "yeah turns out we don't mind edgy jokes and slurs, we just wanted to police people lol".

Stephen Colbert made a gay joke about Trump and Putin and his audience hated it.

Trevor Moore will still be the most popular WKUK guy because he remained a 2000's Leftist while the rest of the group got a Windows 10 update to "grow up".

"Wow I can't believe they said slurs on CumTown OMG" you're the reason why zoomoids say "ahh" instead of "ass".

Remember when someone on Tumblr wanted a picture of fruit to be tagged as "gore"?

Anyway, Carlin did say some interesting things but he also felt like he said basic shit and got popular for how he presented/delivered them.

I could say in a way, the attitude of "you know what mother fucker?" *drops some FACTS* predates Youtubers and grifters going "you've been owned with FACTS AND LOGIC" and those Tumblr threads that go "ALRIGHT MOTHER FUCKERS HERE'S A HISTORY LESSON".

This cartoonish idea of "being smart" that's prevelant in a lot of shit, specially with adult Millenials.

With that in mind, it's one way that George Carlin, despite his intentions, actually made people stupider.

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Surprised I didn't see anyone insult Pope Francis online and I wonder if it's because of what I said earlier that even very leftwing people are afraid to come off as "Reddit Atheism" over religion.

People make jokes about JD Vance leading to the Pope's death but what happened to the "good, I bet he touched kids" people?

Guys, it's ok.

Rightwingers brought back making religion look stupid with their "CHRIST IS KING/BASED" whatever, nobody will reply with your opinions on Christianity with Fedora Shrek anymore.

They even do Wojak memes with Jesus, you can't get lower than that.

At the same time, it may never happened but the idea of a black Pope is kinda funny because of how some racists will react to it when:

• Nowhere did the Bible said anything about race like "God created the chad aryan whites and Satan created brown people".

At most, you have stuff there that has to do with women and gays and that's because other religions have something similar, which brings to the next point:

• A lot of these Western religions were created by people from thousands for years ago that were anything but caucasian looking.

If "aryan" blonds did exist back in like 8000000 BC, they were probably in what became Sweden and most of Northern Europe and were ice dwelling cavemen, whose skin was very pale because of the dark, cold environments.

I even say jokey shit like all these religions being part of a "MCU expended universe" equivalent at their time and that being Christian that hates Judaism is like a Starfox fanboy that hates F-Zero.

And that Jesus did exist but he was just proto-Rasputin.

Because it turns out I have more to say, anyway sequel to https://eyeballtank.newgrounds.com/news/post/1528392

On the subject of a 4chan exodus never happening, it's because too many people use the same few websites and COVID did play a rule into these websites haxing the same mixed web culture.

So in a way, we already witnessed overlaps between 4chan, Tumblr, Reddit etc on Twitter.

Though there's also how the screenshot posting accounts like ShitpostRock, Wakka Ork guy, Pirat Nation etc sound so generic, they sound like feds or when Elon did the "Kek you later frens" thing.

Another thing to consider is that some guys on 4chan technically have alternatives instead of having to use mainstream websites.

Specially when you think of the "normies get out" thing and how some guys are tech nerdy enough to make their own imageboards.

Meanwhile, Tumblr people are more likely to be less nerdy in the tech side of things and there were Tumblr replacements that didn't last long.

Probably because the 4chan alternatives existed for longer but also because said 4chan alternatives are expected to be niche, so they have less trouble hosting their expected amount of people.

So Tumblr users moved to popular sites because Tumblr is a social media site and people online do value socialization (Which applies to fandom too, since socialization is more valued than being a fan of the thing the fandom is about).

And speaking of the definition of "social media", imageboards are about anonymity which probably means they can lost long enough becaues there's no need to make data space for profiles and whatever (Even if they still have some form of user data).

A lot of these failed Tumblr replacements were made for artists who instead moved to Twitter or Newgrounds.

There’s a lot to be said about the 4chan hack thing.

One being “this site stopped being good since 2009 or something”, another is that it was caused by the Sharty.

Basically, think of them as to 4chan what Twitter Zoomers are to Tumblr refugees.

Like little freaks “raised” by the previous generation of failed adult Millenials who passed some terrible lessons to malformed fetuses who act even more annoying than the ones before them.

I also expect the usual “I’m so glad I matured as a person” responses from people that think Twitter only became bad when Elon Musk took over.

We’re in an age where most people only use few websites and the internet is this oversocialized panopticon where people act like cops over others.

It’s more honest to say “I stopped using 4chan because I hate seeing Nikocado on the fucking catalog” than do this performative “I’m a heckin good person now” since we all know where that fake growth comes from.

One could argue that for better or worse, 4chan was still closer to the “wild west” internet compared to the “cyberpunk dystopia” nature of other websites in this day and age.

Though there’s still stories like a guy threatning someone with the “in Minecraft” meme as a way to make it safer but still got arrested.

Or the inverse where somehow, escaping soulless algorithms, there’s hundred of horrible FaceBook images that employees had to look through or a couple or bait-and-switch videos on YT with DreamyBull waiting for someone’s stream to be ruined.

I’d also make a point of how 4chan being down could lead to its annoying people invade other websites.

But I also won’t be surprised if some people will outright deny that the “Tumblr exodus” was ever a thing (Because if a subject seems absurd or silly in nature, you can always hope people forget even the basics, so the ones trying to correct you are seen as “too online, touch grass bro lol”).

Another thing to consider: Somehow, SomethingAwful outliving 4chan.

Still, I feel like saying that in a way, people were supposed to learn something from the internet but they didn’t really learn the right lessons.

We’re at a point where a generation of people don’t even think of how important anonymity is for the internet.

And not even older users make an effort to share or pass down valuable hints and tips.

Also:

• Much prefer that people going “Good fucking riddance” over 4chan are people that just “wojaks fucking suck” and not dudes going “I apologize for making Ron Paul memes”
• The fact that some even say “4chan was leftwing until 2016” only proves that deep down, people like things about 4chan even if they put it through some political filter to justify being anywhere near that idea.

This post kinda exists because of discourse around the DMC show but also a bit of a sequel to something I wrote about Orcs:

https://eyeballtank.newgrounds.com/news/post/1514841

https://eyeballtank.tumblr.com/post/770234000533061632/the-discourse-around-orcs-and-evil-races-in

https://eyeballtank.tumblr.com/post/775122372530470912/going-back-to-that-post-i-wrote-about-non-evil

I think "humanlike" demons in terms of personality/look can be justified with stuff like:

* Them being the rare exception, while other demons are either pure evil or weird looking

* Or maybe if they're "charmed" or affected by someone from the outside

* Maybe if they're half-demons

* Or were humans once or use something human like a human soul

* Or even if they're pretending to be human to misguide/trick humans

* Or you could have "royal demons" that have more complex personalities while lower demons are the beast like ones, maybe

But naturally, demons are more interesting when they look weird/surreal/strange/maybe even "symbolic", have their existence tied to a symbol or some concept or even have weird limited "personalities" like not feeling sympathy or emotions.

Because demons are technically creatures of evil in some works and stuff.

They're in some ways, different from aliens and even most fantasy creatures because a demon can be more than a creature.

Even if a demon has human features in terms of looks or character, there's still something weird about them, as if their nature defies the nature from other worlds.

Aliens and even fantasy monsters can have their own form of nature because nature just is.

Like how their biology works because nature is natural, so there's no "strings attached".

Demons however can have a whole different set of rules, if any.

And it's as if the mere rules themselves have a "mind" of their own (This is partially because of who creates them, like Satan or some other powerfull entity having something in mind with how demons work and what to do with them; Because with our world for example, some would assume that God just created the world as is and left, leaving us on our own).

And how surreal a demon can look can vary, like sometimes using concepts from our world in unusual ways, like how Bosch portrayed demons using musical instruments, even in their anatomy.

This also works as a contrast to how creatures meant to be "Eldritch" or related to Lovecraft's stories are surreal in the sense that their mere visage drives you inside: Which is something that is clearly a result from literature with almost no visual reference and often associated with the typical "multiple eyes and tentacles" things that some people get tired of.

So in that regard, a demon from Hell is easier to work with than a Lovecraftian monster because one can have created ways to use some real concepts (Like most demons having horns which is a feature real animals have but then they have weird anatomy or abilities) while the other is meant to be so out-there, that it gets really lame if their tentacles remind us too much out of octopus tentacles and so on.

If I were to use my characters as examples.

In Project Nortubel, you do have demons as weird creatures like the obvious Bosch inspired monster with the yellow key or the Baphomet-like demon with an extra mouth (Based on that one painting) and the giant stone with thunder or that female head trying to mimic HR Giger's style.

Basically, I wanted to make weird characters based off some paintings and artists.

But then there's the enemies, who are pretty much souls "demonized" and turned into weird monsters.

(I think I wrote somewhere that the lanterns that chase the Companion are souls of dead childrin mindlessly trying to find a host).

With a character I revealed a while ago: Belshazzar.

I came up with a lower class of demons that is closer to humans for a reason: They're the souls of humans that "never came to be".

Basically abortion, stillborn, dead pregnant women etc.

So when a baby dies before birth, their soul is used to create these demons who are enslaved even as babies.

They do age like humans but can be a thousand years old while their adult appearences become the default.

Belshazzar is the one of these demons that breaks free from slavery and tries to find his own purpose.

On one hand, he goes to the worlds of the living to punish sinners.

On another, he goes after "escaping souls", so his interests clash against those of the 7 undead.

I guess I could also mention how Baalphomette is an anthro goat sorceress that fused with a demoness and became a half demon or the 7 undead in general (Mainly because Maikouto is an Oni which pretty much means "Japanese demon" but she's still on the same level as the rest of her group).

Another thing about demons is when they're "creatures/beasts" because something you see in a lot of games is when they're portrayed with chitin anatomy or shell-like features in them.

There are times when a demon feels a bit too close to a hypothetical animal because of how they can be designed, as if we associate art directions with "languages".

(Part of why people compare Demon Souls' original style to the remake).

With my characters, if I were to create creatures with certain chitin features, I'd probably give them to sci-fi aliens who are expected to have some marine/bug-like features while demons must try to be weirder.

(With Otulp, I have what's essentially demonic aliens, so that should be figured out too; Like establishing "rules" with the creatures from Tfoorie's world (Tfoorie being the 2 mouth, 5 eyed alien you might've seen in Nortubel) then imagining how demons for aliens would look like).

I think a reason why some demons in stuff have the chitin thing going on is because of the idea that "alien = sci-fi and demon = fantasy" and maybe because chitin is an alternative to scales, because fantasy has dragons.

Could also be because some people assume traditional demons you see in old paintings and statues are too basic.

This probably leads to some history of art styles in games that could be better studied somewhere else.

Going back to the idea of them being creatures of evil, there are settings where that doesn't always have to be the case.

But you also get an issue similar with evil Orcs where people assume a fantasy race or species represents a real group and not a concept like a disease, natural disaster or a concept alone (Like how war corrupts man).

Even if a demon isn't 100% evil, they still need a personality that makes it clear they're not the same as a human.

Don't know what else to add because I had this post in mind but didn't really expand on it while as a draft.