A specific behaviour some people have is constantly talking about a subject and being upset that you don’t take it seriously, but when something happens that contradicts their point of view: They stop talking about it and act like nothing happened.
Like as if they’re pretending they always had a position different from before the “reality shattering” event.
The kind of people that establish an narrative, beat you on the head with it, then wait long enough to change their narrative and claim it was the default all along.
It comes off as someone traumatized by years of other people telling them the phrase “I told you so”.
The kind that will never ever say the phrase “ok I was wrong that time but now I changed my mind”.
Robot stories and shit
I guess discrimination/inequality stories between humans and robots will probably not work anymore due to the current state of AI.
But I assume some people were already cynical towards that because of the notion that “robots are technically objects” even if that comes off as basic cynicism.
(Something something “insert Detroit Become Human vs Nier Automata debate here”).
I wonder how many settings go the route of robots being “born” instead of made like settings where metal and all those materials are treated the same was as our universe treats flesh and bone in how we come to existence.
So robots are the natural order and maybe we are the artificial ones.
(I think some versions of Transformers lore kinda goes with “natural” robots).
Another idea is how robots get their consciousness, like if they are on par with humans mentally because some were humans.
Like maybe someone is about to die and wants their personality carried by a machine.
Or even it turns out they had a microchip in their brain and it saves their personality after they die, so they’re reborn as robots.
There’s a lot of metaphor at play, from people with disabilities that require objects to go through life, to even stuff about organ transplanet and how it affects people or even conspiracies about people dying just so their organs are taken early.
"Maturity" in modern writing
Besides insincerity, I think another problem with modern shows, movies, games etc is the lack of eloquence or etiquette or “maturity”.
I think a good example is when people put clips of old Star Trek and new ST, just to show the differences in writing and all.
Guess it goes back to stuff about Millenials.
It also means that the topic of “politics in art” shouldn’t be a “left vs right” one, but more of a generational one.
How people handle certain subjects in different time periods and cultures.
Haven’t seen the new Superman, so I probably shouldn’t judge over one clip but during whatever talk show it was on, they selected a clip of Superman shouting at Lex Luther over his dog while Lex drinks his coffee and acts passive aggressive.
Like that clip felt specifically made to be shown like that vs how Reeves Superman entered Lex’s office and how the two interact in that scene.
I guess this is why the meme phrase “Talks like Sephiroth” exists.
I can see Zoomers say that old Star Trek is written like “trying to talk like Sephiroth”.
Irony on Zoomers
Kinda funny that Zoomers want to search for lost media pilots of kids shows even you would hate as a kid but think beloved PS2 titles need remakes or else they’re unplayable and outdated.
My explanation on John K
A way I kinda describe John K is:
Imagine if there was this popular game dev of a beloved arcade game.
And then the dev starts criticizing modern games, specially those that lean more towards being story heavy.
He even goes on about “game writers” and people think he sounds mean.
And then it turns out he’s a horrible person, which causes people to ignore most of his opinions, even if someone else shares them or even had them first.
So now whenever someone talks about how they don’t like story heavy games or something, someone else goes “Guess what! You know have the same opinions as that horrible piece of shit game dev!”.
Food
Think I saw someone posting on Twitter about eating rice with their hands and how bourgeoisie it is to “force” others to eat with spoons and forks and all that.
At some point, you gotta stop attaching politics to terrible habits and admit you have to grow up (And this is me speaking).
But I also wonder about how both sides currently view processed foods too.
On one hand, the left could go about how capitalism leads to ruining our foods with chemicals while the right says “it’s another global warming tier nonsense” and that lefties complaining about it have no real problems or how it’s food for business and shit.
But another possible thing is Alex Jones tier rants about what the elite put in our water vs lefties defending chemicals in food and deciding that mean gym bros love natural foods way too much than cute hippie girls.
Or I guess depending on which side fetishizes the farm lifestyle a lot more than the other.
Dril humor
I feel there’s something specific to the kind of humor in Dril, Tumblr “funnymen” and even TheBestGamers.
Something around bad grammar and acting childish/dumb, but in a “cool, detached, ironic” way.
A kind of humor that may have roots in SomethingAwful’s FYAD and both in that place and early Dril tweets, there were occasional edgy examples, some with slurs.
But as time went on and people on Tumblr adopted the humor, it became sanatized and just bad spelling and pretending to be dumb.
But there are instances of people essentially talking that way but serious, like people referring to an actual politician they dislike as “smelly bitch” like a 13 year old.
Like, they reach a point where they’re not being ironic and actually are mentally children.
(I guess there’s also an aspect of censorship where people talk like this as if they can’t use actual insults).
Anyway, shout outs to Rockcock64 from TheBestGamers for once apologizing for his humor and blaming it on 4chan, when SA might as well be the actual source.
And shout outs to Dril for sending his fans to attack a man for saying the following:
“it isnt a mischaracterization. i have been posting in the same environments as drill for 15 years and everyone else outgrew the wacky concepts + erratic punctuation and spelling style, while dril and the rest of the weird twitter fyad dudes cultivated an audience of dullards”
Something about Bronies
A bit of a take I sometimes wonder if it could have some truth is “the internet spent years making weebs look bad to hide the fact that cartoon fans became worse, just look at the cultural overlaps between Tumblr and SomethingAwful”.
I wonder if some believe that “weebs are weird, cartoon fans are not” and that’s why bronies were noticeable.
Like some people thought bronies were an exception among cartoon fans, before the current state of fandom and shows like Bluey.
Grok anime girl
Some people going “I wish artists didn’t draw the Grok anime girl” when there’s plenty of non-characters that artists still drew just because, like the Wendy’s mascot or the blob character thing from Duolingo turned into an anime girl.
Goes back to some points I said:
- How some artists draw popular characters mixed with memes and trends.
- What makes a “waifu”? A character with an actual personality and story? A character that actually looks cute in source material? A character from a show/game/comic you actually watch/play/read? Because there’s a lot of characters that don’t even fit that criteria to most artists.
- People bringing up fanart making character prettier but their examples are always already good looking girls and not, you know, cartoon blobs or ugly “realistic” game characters drawn in cute art styles or even the opposite where cute girls are drawn ugly with body hair and stretch marks.
- Maybe debates about gacha characters and VTubers vs actual games and anime/manga characters.
PC Gaming
I honestly think the main reason to brag about PC gaming is if you make it about the actual control you can have with it: Mods, emulation, “free” games etc.
The minute you start going “BASED GABEN” and praise a storefront like Steam, you’re not too different from the console brand cultists.
Unless people just don’t want to be overly nerdy with shit like Linux and some programs and shit.
Joss Whedon
I recall when people were doing parody posts of Joss Whedon’s writing and a lot felt really annoying: Not even in a “wow you’re getting exactly how lame it is” way but more in a “it’s almost like you’d be the kind of person to enjoy/make it” way.
Kinda goes back to what I said about AI art where anti-AI people don’t do a good enough job at fighting it, with great examples of manmade art or understand that AI art is a side effect of humans making bad art.
Also reminds me of people that once said “MEMES ARE FUCKING CANCER” now doing Wojak memes or speaking meme based language.
Same with people that try to be cynical online, as if they’re not still basic at it and using a certain template we saw many times online.
Like when people shit on most movies they go “wow, the hero saves the day, how clever” but never point out the shitty ironic/“subversive” writting: Because pretending to be “so aware/critical/analytic” over tropes and shitty irony/subversion focused writing to hand-in-hand.
(Didn’t it turn out that TVTropes started as a Joss Whedon fan site?)
Superheroes and fairy tales
In a way, I think superheroes are like fairy tales in the sense they will always be popular because of how basic they are and if they have good lessons or morals behind them.
Because people often talk about how boring Superman is, as if he’s not meant to be THE superhero (“Actually, the Phantom and Golden Bat” I know but still).
This also means: If Superman gets the likes of “what if… he is the BAD GUY?” stories, fairy tales get stuff like Shrek and any take that tries to be funny and “clever”.
I recall a series by Cartoon Aesthetics, talking about how Disney used to present fairy tales in a more genuine manner before at some point, since Aladdin, taking a more “cool, funny” approach.
"Common sense"
The phrase “common sense” is a weird one because it implies that “correct good ideas” are very common, even from people that otherwise think “most people are stupid”.
Guess it’s the same thing on whether “normal” means what’s correct and logical or just what’s more common.
“Nothing to hide, nothing to fear” is also another one because there’s always a social context behind it.
Even if what you do isn’t illegal or wrong, people will always judge based on perconceptions of stuff like what’s normal etc.
And because we humans are all too different from each other, so things can get chaotic if too many people are forced to look at each other.
Part of the internet being the way it is now is because of “oversocialization”.
You have have situations where people act like angry mobs and forget what they’re fighting for or everyone just stand and watch as someone could be having a heart attack but nobody comes to help anyway.
Drama Youtubers
I think a big reason why I dislike Youtubers like Turkey Tom and DaftPina is because they’re part of that modern Youtube culture of “gotta say Unalive to get around the monetization system” while making what is essentially an extreme diet take on lolcow culture.
Doing drama shit but still pandering to overt sensitive zoomers with Realistic Panic Attacks and using Wojak memes like everyone else.
It’s why I think MisterMetokur is less bad for the fact that he’s edgy: You’re making videos about other people and calling them weird, might as well make edgy jokes and give people the impression you’re a psychopath.
You have no moral ground by making these sort of videos anyway.
Even Keemstar saying slurs unironically puts him above Turkey Tom because again, who are you to act like a hero?
Something about Rowling, Musk, Shankar etc
Every time people bring up shit like those Simpsons episodes sucking off Elon or JK Rowling, I feel like it’s worth remembering the context when those were loved by everyone for some odd reasons.
Specially in political related contexts.
Even Adi Shankar is an example: At some point, someone would tell you he’s an SJW for putting black characters in Castlevania and all that stuff, years before it turns out he loves Henry Kissinger and assister Trump’s inauguration.
Maybe keep an eye on people who you severely admire a lot because, who knows.
/pol/
In the same way that Tumblr and SomethingAwful ruined the left, I wonder if the same can be said about /pol/ and the right.
Like, would certain rightwingers act so racist and edgy if not for spending too much time on /pol/?
Specially if one goes “watch out SJW’s, my edgy humor will trigger you” without realizing it’d also “trigger” the “family values” conversatives.
Also, worth thinking about whenever they go on about “degenerates” as if guys complaining about SJW’s censoring games weren’t part of why some rightwing Youtubers got a push.
Sargon talks about weebs being gross as if he didn’t peak in 2014/5 in terms of popularity because of a certain event going on there.
Maybe they need to be hit with something so hard, they walk back and go “suddenly the cool black guy agrees with us and the left are the real racists”.
Epstein
I remember when rightwingers were the ones freaking out about Epstein while some lefties were like “who cares, you paranoid asshole”.
Even South Park made fun of RW guys over this, because at some point, barely did leftwingers went “well Trump is in there too”.
But, like with any topic dominated by “If you’re leftwing you’re X and if you’re rightwing you’re Y”: The positions switched so now the other side takes it seriously and the other doesn’t, while both pretend it was always like this.
Either way, I was sure some files were already released with is why I recall Bobby Kotick and Stephen Hawking also being involved.
But still, no matter what side a specific figure is part of, any can have dirt behind them.
Trump is definitely in the files and so could be the Clintons and then you have shit like the P Diddy and Joe Biden’s son or I guess the Trump piss tapes.
Even Elon might be involved, which makes him go “I’M GONNA RELEASE IT, JUST YOU WAIT” kinda funny in a way.
PayPal
A way I see the payment processors situation is: Imagine if a company behind your silverware got to decide what you can eat or cook.
You alread bought their forks, knives, spoons etc.
But they are not the ones behind what you cook or the food you bought.
So why do they think they get to tell you what you should or shouldn’t eat?
Because your money isn’t owned NOR created by these companies, so why do they decide that you shouldn’t play a game with “bad drawings” while these same companies were fine/got involved with groups related to human trafficking?
“All this over anime games?” Yes, because if there ever is a pusback againt these giants, you will soon find out who to thank for.
Zelda movie
In theory and reality, a live action Zelda shouldn’t exist to begin with.
People did a lot of Ghibli Zelda memes but a well done animated movie and/or OVA would be ideal, at least.
Then again, a Mario movie by Illumination is also not ideal but we got that anyway.
Judge Dredd
On one hand, one could argue that plenty of people never read a single Judge Dredd comic and how the 2012 movie doesn’t have the same tone as most comics.
But on another, I still don’t trust a MCU writer to work on the series.
And between this and The Incal, is culture so lame and limited that the only way to people acknowledge comics outside of Marvel/DC is to get their latest movies’ writers behind them?
I recall some people disappointed that The Electric State movie was directed by the Russo brothers.
Does this mean we could get like a movie based on Corto Maltese that also has the Russo guys or Waititi behind it, so people get to acknowledge Hugo Pratt at all?
It reminds me of news that the Zelda movie was going to have Tom Holland and Zendaya as part of the cast.
Fixed and Genndy
A big difference between Fixed and the likes of Family Guy is that Genndy’s new film is an animation drived project by an animator, which is a contrast to “writer cartoons” where the animation is flat and stiff.
And with his story of getting screwed by execs, I think he gets to make a silly comedy movie before he probably gets another idea for a project that people could like more.
Still, cartoon fans spent years not championing the more interesting stuff and not having high standards anyway, so nobody gets to say Genndy is washed out or whatever.
Edit: Forgot to mention how Family Guy’s animation being so stiff is what inspired that Go!Animate art style.
Edit: Also, how many people complaining about Fixed watched Unicorn Warriors Eternal?